Wednesday, October 26, 2005

FISCHER DEBERRY COMMENTS

Fischer DeBerry’s comments bring many wide ranging issues to the forefront. Let me address a few of them. There is no question that the comment is totally inappropriate, racist and wrong. The issue is that the Air Force Academy is lacing athletes and they need to recruit better athletes. If those athletes happen to be black then they are the best choice. If you have any doubt about the comment change the word athlete and use doctor, president, lawyer or teacher. Then play around with changing white and black.

With that clarified here are the other issues that jump forward.

1) How much does a body of work count? In other words, how much does one comment outweigh his actions of the past two decades?

2) What was he really saying? If he is venturing down the awful road of we can’t get these guys into school then it is a more significant issue.

3) Is it worse that he clearly had no idea that what he said was wrong? Or is it a sign of innocence?

16 comments:

NateRob1 said...

Let's be honest. Deberry is only bringing out what's been hidden or been in the locker room for years. Haven't we all been in either a two hand touch football game or pickup basketball game? What happens when we pick teams before the game? Isn't it true that the black guys get picked first before the rest? Let's face it black athletes have always been perceived as being faster or can jump higher than the average Joe. If you went around and asked a group of guys confidentially, "are black athletes better than other athletes?" I think that most guys would say "yes". And if you think that I am being racist then you haven't been around a diverse group of people ever. Deberry only stated something that has been "accepted" for a long time.

Ex. If you had to put your life on the line and you were asked to pick between a black guy and a white guy in a 100 yard dash race, who would you pick? Don't lie to yourself now....

Biggie said...

Exactly, this is in no way a racist statement, it is a true statement, white people are up in arms about it. But just as Adolph Hitler had to find out in the Olympic games thanks to one of my heros Mr. Jesse Owens when it comes to a footrace white guys have no chance. Sorry that's just the way it is. Locke I'll give you an anecdote; one time on the Chapelles shoe Dave made a comment that this dude came up to him and said that his show was offensive to black people, the punchline was that the dude was white. Thats you, saying something is racist and offensive to a group of people who you don't belong to and could never hope to understand. In the future leave it up to us to decide what is or isn't racist to us. Thanks buddy.

Myk said...

Black,

I think where the confusion lies is that as Locke said if I came to you and said I would only see a White Doctore because they are smarter you would be all over me as a racist. It is a double sided argument that certain people only want to lack at from one point of view.

Biggie said...

But that statement is not true (about the doctors) I wouldn't be mad, your ignorance wouldn't anger me if anything I'd feel sorry for you. Fisher is a good coach, good coaches know good players. If you were looking for fast football players and you had the choices of looking in Maine and Delaware or Florida and Texas where would you choose and why?? I was hoping anyone but you would respond being that you are a champion for KKKJR.

Myk said...

Black,

It doesn't bother me that you think I am racist because I know I am not. There has not been one thing I have said that has made me look like a racist or would make you think anything of that sort. You just can't handle when someone calls you out on your own racist tendencies pure and simple.

As for your comment about the White vs Black Doctor argument I love how when it is against your beliefs then it simply is not true but when the comment supports your beliefs that you are somehow better then it is ok. It is very obvious to the objective reader that you are the most racist person on the board.

Biggie said...

OK. I never called you a racist, you should really recognize the word 'if'.

Biggie said...

Myk, how come you don't address naterob1, he seems to agree with Fisher also?? I think it is because you are locke's wife and you don't like me blasting him all the time. LOL!!!!

naterob1 said...

Let's be honest. Deberry is only bringing out what's been hidden or been in the locker room for years. Haven't we all been in either a two hand touch football game or pickup basketball game? What happens when we pick teams before the game? Isn't it true that the black guys get picked first before the rest? Let's face it black athletes have always been perceived as being faster or can jump higher than the average Joe. If you went around and asked a group of guys confidentially, "are black athletes better than other athletes?" I think that most guys would say "yes". And if you think that I am being racist then you haven't been around a diverse group of people ever. Deberry only stated something that has been "accepted" for a long time.

Ex. If you had to put your life on the line and you were asked to pick between a black guy and a white guy in a 100 yard dash race, who would you pick? Don't lie to yourself now....

Biggie said...

Myk,

Are you using Tim Dwightguy as your only example?? He's not even that fast.

Myk said...

No Black I am speaking out against you because you are also the same idiot who thinks that the reason some fans want to see what Johnny D can do is because they are racist. You play both sides of the card whenever it is convenient to you.

What is your definition of athelete? So the only thing that makes a guy an athlete is how fast they can run? And my main point is that just because someone is black does not mean they are a good athlete just like if someone is white does not mean they are not a good athlete.

Biggie said...

Yawn!!

don said...

DeBerry’s comments were not racist, they were inappropriate. Inappropriate because “we” have decided, in the last fifteen or so years, that certain comments regarding certain differences between “groups” are inappropriate. What DeBerry said was not “bad”, it is that certain discussions have been deemed by the masses to be inappropriate. Racism is believing that a race is naturally superior to others. Howard Cossell made a racist comment when, in the 70’s, he commented during a MNF game, “look at that little monkey go.” DeBerry’s comments did not denigrate black athletes, or the race. If anything, they were racist about other races than African American. The long time British golf commentator, Ben Wright, was fired by CBS for saying publicly that LPGA golfers have a swing adjustment to make because they have breasts; and he said there were a high percentage of gay women on the tour. Simple truths. Everyone knows that in general blacks are faster than whites, reds and yellows (Sacrilegious! It was just said again.). So why is there this fear in saying things with no malice of intent, that are true, are not racist, and typically don’t offend the sensibilities of the group discussed? At face value, I have no problem with DeBerry’s comments. I think most people have the ability to feel the same way, but for the politically correct filters we have chosen, or been forced, to wear.

NateRob1 said...

The only sad thing is that these days, blacks in general have been praised for their athletic ablities and not their other accomplishments. It 's great that blacks are given their props as far as athletics are concerned, but I hope that this isn't the only thing that they will be recognized for.

Anonymous said...

Naterob1,

You forgot that blacks are also recognized in the music world as well as in cinema!!!!

Biggie said...

Black Poeple ( not "blacks") Are recognized in every aspect of american culture. We are just much more visible in the Music, Cinema, and sports worlds. Black people have invented every, every type of american music that you can name, country comes from the Blues, Chuck Berry and others invented rock, Afrika Bambata invented House music which became techno and all other related strains, We invented Disco (sorry), Jazz, Hip-hop, Rap,...etc. Do you know how bland this country would be without us???? A black man (Crispus Attucks) was the first man ever to die in a war for this country (Boston Massacre), for a snowball he didn't even throw, but that snowball started the revolutionary war. We should have gotten the reparations promised back in the day as we are owed a huge debt of gratitude for all we have contributed to the greatness of america (when you read this last part you can just hear the patriotic flute melodies, born of the revolution),

NateRob1 said...

BLACK,

GOT YOUR POINT.