Tuesday, October 04, 2005

REGGIE EVANS SIGNS

950, KJR is reporting that Reggie Evans will be reporting to camp. Evans has decided to sign the one year tender agreement and become an unrestricted free agent next season. The Sonics had offered Evans a 2 year 5 million dollar deal.
Evans will compete for the starting power forward job with Vlady Radmanovic and Nick Collison. Bob Weiss said yesterday that he likes Evans with Potapenko more then liked Evans with James. Also, he said he would like for Collison to come off the bench.

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

Everybody knows that Nick should start, but he would be more valuable coming off the bench at this point in order to give more relief in case any of our bigs gets in foul trouble. He compliments Danny well and he deepens our bench. Nick would finish most of the games anyway and can still get starter minutes.
Reggie has a tendency to get in foul trouble and his offense is a liablity ( his value is the energy he brings to the table at the start of the game) We can still start Nick on occasion depending on the opponent.

Myk said...

Sonics/Reggie Fans:

"Please explain to me the mtyh that Reggie's value is the energy he brings off the bench to start the game"

If that is the case why did it seem that they started nearly every game off getting into a big hole?

Reggie is a sham...

Anonymous said...

Myk,

who was the leading rebounder on the team? I rest my case know it all!!!

Anonymous said...

maybe you and black think that Johan Petro should be our power forward!LOL

Biggie said...

Keep my name out of your mouth, concentrate on one thing at a time.

Just keep the same rotation as last year, start Reggie and bring nick off of the bench. All of the other positions are set who really cares who starts in a revolving door position like the 4 is for the Sonics.

Anon,

I want Petro and Swift to get playing time here and there when we are whoopin on somebody. I don't think either of them are ready to get any significant minutes yet. Get yourself as account and log on like a real man, this anonymous sh*t is really feminine.

Sonic EJ said...

I'm glad the Sonics didn't up their offer to Reggie. He is not worth much over 5 mil for two years. The Sonics need Reggie's defense and rebounding more than any team Reggie might go to. Hopefully he will take the 2 years/5 mil next year.

Myk,
Why are you a Reggie hater?

Myk said...

I am not a Reggie hater but I really don't understand why everyone says that his engery is necessary to start ball games, when all the numbers show that the Sonics were constantly behind in the first half of the first quarter of the game.

When you look at +/- stats you see that Vlade had THE best on the team and the simple explanation for that is that he was out there less with Reggie and Jerome than guys like Ray and Rashard were.

As Locke has pointed out numerous times, one of the main reasons that Reggie gets so many Rebounds on the offensive end is because he has no one guarding him, which means there is no one there to block him out. I have no problem signing Reggie to a 2 or 3 year 5-7 million dollar contract, but anything other than that is craziness...especially what he "thnks" he is worth. That is decent money for a guy who should play no more than 15-20 minutes a game all of which are never in crunch time.

Kieth Gilbertson said...

What is a Reggie??

Sonic EJ said...

Myk,
What is different about the other team when Reggie is on the court compared to Vlade? Reggie plays against the fresh starters and Vlade beats up on subs or tired starters. Try watching a game instead of just listing to Locke or looking at +/- stats. The Sonics were down in the fist quarter a lot because their main strength is their depth and they would use it to come from behind. Also they were constantly up big and down big all game because they rely so heavily on threes to win. This whole “Well Locke said” crap is a great example of you can’t seem to think for yourself. Stats don’t tell the whole story!

Myk said...

EJ

- Wow... so the fact that Reggie and Jerome James were basically unable to score had nothing to do with the falling behind? I never said Reggie wasn't a decent player and deserves to make a bit over the minimum, but come on...he can't make a layup

- If Reggie's hustle and energy are so important to the start of the game for the Sonics then why isn't it important at any other point of the game? If we follow your logic and it does that much damage on the "fresh legs" of the starters, wouldn't do even more damage to bench players? Wouldn't it be crucial to have that energy in at the end of the game?

There is absolutely no logic behind the idea that Reggie is a superior starter to any of the other players on our team. In fact the ONLY logic is that he needs to start because then he gets his 10 minutes or whatever and then can be taken out because he can't finish halves or quarters.

- Finally, what stats do we have that Reggie is such a good defender? Sure he runs around with engergy and is trapping, but does that make him a great defender? If that is the case does that make Luke a great defender as well? AND if he is such a good defender why doesn't he shut down more PFs, and/or play more minutes because if the Sonics need one thing is defense.

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Myk said...

Black (everyone else),

Answer these three questions:

1) If Reggie's hustle/energy is so important then why does the team do worse (I guess as long as we define scoring less than the opponent..) when he is out on the court?

2) If Reggie's hustle/energy is so important to how the Sonics play, how come he only plays 15-25 minutes a game, and never plays in the fourth quarter? Dennis Rodman had the hustle/energy and rebounding stats and he finished games?

3) If Reggie's hustle/energy/defense is so good does that mean when you see him playing D on any of the top PFs in the league you feel like we have a better chance to stop him then with Nick or Danny?

Let's hear it...

Myk said...

Black,

And wow, sorry for pointing out the obvious that the fact that he gets rebounds is no one guards him. Did you actually play basketball? If so, were/are you more of a guard type or someone who actually had to rebound? If you were someone who actually had to rebound then you might know how much easier it is to rebound without anyone boxing you out.

Diezel said...

If u bring Reggie off the bench ur second squad is Reggie, Vlade, Mikki moore, Damien, and either Flip/Ric Brunson/Mateen so basically u get Vlade and Flip just jacking up shot after shot, if u bring Nick off the bench then your second team has a chance to establish some sort of inside game. That is the number one concern that I have is the bench play becuase our nine man rotation is looking really really weak!!!


Bow DOWN all u husky haters!!!! U dub hoops is BACK!!!!! we got Hawes we have the number one recruting class, this year i can see at great 8 at least then next year with Applebey, Joel Smith, Hawes, Brockman, Nelson and Oliver and Wallace I am thinking final four at least baby!!!!

Ty take some notes on how to get the local recruits!!!! If Ty would have got Taylor Mays I wouldn't be sooo hard on the guy.

Myk said...

Diezel,

- I agree that it is one reason to start Reggie is because our bench can't score. My point was why does everyone manufacture these benefits of having Reggie when the numbers don't seem to bear it out.

- Hawes is great and it is great to have a great basketball team (something to root for). I don't have as high as expectations for this year but hopefully next year we can be a top 5 team the whole time.

Diezel said...

myk... I finally agree with u but in this case with Reggie starting I think it's the lesser of two evils, start Nick which I think he deserves or have a bench with almost zero production?? Plus I think Nick will take not starting alot better than either Reggie or Vlade.

Myk said...

I agree with that, I think that Nick is a great sixth man off the bench and may at some point turn into a Detlef kind of guy (not sure if that is a compliment or not..).

Everyone else:

I am not say Reggie is a horrible player I just don't understand why everyone claims he is so important to the team when no numbers bear it out.


I was reading the article about Hawes committing to the Dawgs. Imagine what this team would have been if Martell had stayed in school too..

Biggie said...

My fire was stolen, I was in a meeting but coming back to see the question that was asked, I would say you have to start Reggie due to lack of bench offense if you bring him off of it. Nick is a pro he knows he won't start but will probably end up with the most minutes at the 4. Vlade can't play the 4 effectivly, Vlady was and always will be Rashards back-up, there is not one 4 in the league that I could name that I could say with any confidence that Vlade could effectivly guard. Vlade is a big 3, and still has a hard time guarding the other 3's in the league. Which 3 or 4 in the NBA wouldn't have Radmanovic for breakfast when taking the ball to the hole?? None, even other white guys use Vlade.

Kieth Gilbertson said...

UH-OH!!!!

I shit on myself!!! Bad Gilby!!! Don't eat my own chocolate!!!

Kieth Gilbertson said...

But Gilby love trouser truffles!!!

Myk said...

OK like I said I agree that Reggie starts because they don't have anywhere else to put him. However, that doesn't explain why all the Reggie lovers think he is so unexpendable from the team. Is a guy you have to start simply because he can't score really unexpendable?

Diezel said...

I am happy this city is starting to come back to a hoops town ala 94-99 when GP and the Reign were bringing it. I have dreams on a nightly basis on what we would have been this year with a starting lineup of Nate, Martell, Brandon, Bobby Jones, Brockman/Jamal Williams....I think honestly if nate and tell stayed this lineup would have won a ncaa championship especially since the bench would be Jensen, Joel Smith, applebey, and either Williams or Brockman.... we can only DREAM!!!!

Myk said...

I think the most obvious showing of the switch between UW being a football school into a basketball school is the loss to UCLA last week didn't even really cause a ripple (even though they played horrible). People just expect the football team to lose now...might be a long time before we ever gain that Football Power status again

Myk said...

Now that the Knicks traded for Curry I bet they LOVE that signing of Jerome..

Especially when you here this:

James was one of the first training-camp casualties as a result of his efforts to play Brown's way. He began sprinting up the court during an outlet-pass drill and strained his left hamstring, sidelining him for the rest of Wednesday's practice. James said he'd never had hamstring trouble before, but he'd never had to play under this system before either.

Diezel said...

A buddy of mine that lives in Minnesota was telling me that the T-wolves almost traded T hud and Eddie Griffin for Flip and Reggie but word is that Ric Sund turned it down?? that combo right there would have made our bench really strong, but Ric was probably pissed about the Damien offer..


Is anyone interested in trying to acquire George Lynch he gives u a tough defender and decent scorer off the bench. I hate the fact that Bob is giving Nick the Green light to shoot 3's we need our 4's in the post not camped out by the 3 point line.

Myk said...

Well Hudson's contract is pretty horrible, I do like Griffen though. I am sure they turned it down because those two are borderline crazy and they felt it might upset the chemistry. Plus Griffen is more in the line of a Vlade 4 so we would have multiple 4s who really should be 3s.

If Nick can hit threes then let him shoot, I sure don't think I would rely on him as a post scoring presence. To me he is more of a high post 4 man, again a'la Detlef.

Sonic EJ said...

Thank God the Sonics didn't trade for Hudson and Griffen! That deal makes no sense for Seattle.