Tuesday, August 23, 2005

HOW THE SONICS LOST OUT ON DALE DAVIS?

The Sonics were hot after Dale Davis for the past weeks and really thought he would be a nice fit to the team. However, the Pistons blew the Sonics out of the water with a 2 year 7 million dollar contract for Davis.
The Sonics were believed to more in the 2 year 4 to 5 million range. If the Sonics had matched the Davis contract they would have been unable to match Damien Wilkins if they decide that is the best approach.
Moreover, 7 million over 2 years for a seriously aging Davis is another head scratching deal in the NBA this off-season. Hard to complain that the Sonics wouldn’t eliminate any chance of retaining Wilkins by matching the deal that Davis got offered from Detroit.

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Sonic EJ said...

Thank god the Sonics didn't give Dale Davis a 2y/7mil deal.

I have to question Joe Dumars on this one. Though as Diezel has previously pointed out, this is a "Hack a Shaq" signing.

JohnS said...

Locke,

Any information on some of the other FAs that the Sonics are looking at? Maybe they just plan to resign their own FAs at this point?

farman said...

I am wondering if the sonics are thinking about calvin booth playing a 10 minute back up role for the league mini.....500k for 7 foot stuff is better than 2 for 7 million for a 36 year old stuff....

JohnS said...

They seem to be looking for defensive centers who are strong rebounders and don't take lots of shots.

The idea would be to have them go one-on-one for offensive rebounds with the opposing center in the lineup where Vlade plays the 4. You bring the opposing 4 out of rebounding range and give us a mismatch. The problem for guys like Fortson and Evans playing the 5 is they can get pounded on the defensive end by opposing centers.

That's why they wanted Davis - guy plays tough defense against centers and is a great rebounder. Booth is a weak rebounder so won't work well in that offense.

farman said...

rebounding is not a problem for the sonics. Jerome James was never a rebounder. he was tall and long....thats it....I am not asking for rebounding.....weak side shot blocker buddy.....

Sonic EJ said...

Just say no to Calvin Booth!

Biggie said...

No CALVIN BOOTH, please god no.

Anonymous said...

Diezel's Girlfriend looks just like Calvin Booth. Score one for the anonymous one HAHAHAHA

JohnS said...

Booth is a stiff - we know that from personal experience. Let's move on with our lives here.

Problem with Booth is that he goes after everything - which makes him a pretty poor defender overall even though he pads the blocking stats column.

I say with stand pat with who we have and plan to give Swift some decent minutes next year. I think he's going to surprise people.

Biggie said...

I would rather the Sonics got Hakeem Olajuwon at age 60 than Calvin Booth in his prime. If anyone even thinks the name Olden Polynice you deserve to get slapped.

Anon,

You are such a clown, grow up, go somewhere else with that stupid shit.

Sonic EJ said...

Hey guys, how about Olden Polynice?

Sonic EJ said...

LOL!

Biggie said...

very funny 'SLAP'

Anonymous said...

Hey blackie, mind your own bizness or i'll be all over yer ass too. Bitch

Sonic EJ said...

anonymous,

Is this some gay trash talking contest?

Grow up and get a life.

Anyone who goes on a sports blog to talk crap to someone about their girl friend certainly has never had one.

Biggie said...

That sounds pretty gay dude. You know you guys can get married now I think, maybe you should be looking into that, dickbreath.

Anonymous said...

You want some too Sonic ej??

Your mom looks like Scottie Pippens and Jerome Williams lovechild. LOL

Sonic EJ said...

nice.

Lance Uppercut said...

The only surprise provided by Swift this year is going to be how bad he still is. Did you see him in the summer league? A total stiff. If he makes it out of the DL this season, it will be becuase of the mandated 14 man roster.

Biggie said...

I would love to see them throw both of these young guys into the fire, I would like to see what they can do. I also am intrigued about this Gelabale dude, it's too bad we don't get him this year, it would kinda resolve the Wilkins situation. We could let him go to MN.

Anonymous said...

Sonic ej, is your mom a $2 whore????

Anonymous said...

how about yours blackie $3 maybe?? LOL

Biggie said...

you're retarded dude, go get some pussy or something and stay of the blog.

Anonymous said...

I thought you said I was gay???

Sonic EJ said...

to all anonymous,

If you want to be in the conversation, sign up with a name and bring something to the table.

Otherwise shut up and go away.

Anonymous said...

Hey Diezel, if you really want my address I'll give it to you ok.

Diezel the Fag
Volunteer Park (after dark)
Seattle, WA 90210

Biggie said...

Dude, he's not even on here right now, shut the F*** up.

Anonymous said...

I'm 13, this ruleZ!

Biggie said...

Yo Ej, don't hate on the Seahawks dude. I bet you we'll get farther than your Raiders (are they ever gonna let Tui play)??

Biggie said...

anonymous,

Come back when you've got short and curlies.

Diezel said...

first of i bet ur bitch azz wont even show but please believe I roll deep Triad style..... I got .45 reasons for u to shut ur mouth bitch. I shoot u and then rape ur momma

Diezel said...

DD not signing was the best off season move the Sonics made you can't give that guy 7 mill.... THe reason he got that much for the next two years is cuz he gets to have shaq beat him down everytime the heat and Pistons play

Anonymous said...

what about love me long time and sucky sucky? five dolla. LOL

smike said...

David,

How about requiring all bloggers here to sign up and don't let anonymous sign up. It is a pain in the butt to wade through the children's non relevant comments.

merritt said...

Speaking of Olden Polynice, one of the funniest eff'n NBA stories I've ever read was when Olden Polynice was arrested in Salt Lake City for impersonating a police officer... for the SECOND TIME! What the eff was he thinking?!?

It's even in his NBA bio:
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/olden_polynice/bio.html

Biggie said...

Who the F*** would believe his big ass was a cop? He must have been high on crack.

Anonymous said...

Hey seattle mike, why'd you change your name, didn't it used to be san francisco mike the raging homosexual?? I heard you could fit a full grown eggplant in you ass. Hampster murderer. LOL HAHAHAHAHAH

anonymous ruleZ

Sonic EJ said...

black,

Let me know when you guys (Seahawk Fans) win a playoff game.

The Raiders are still recovering from their run at the superbowl. That being said they might still be better than the Seahawks. BTW the AFC West is the toughest division in the NFL and the NFC West is the weakest.

b_con said...

This blog is terrible. But yeah, no way DD is worth that. I wanna see the young guys play too, cause its not like Reggie and Jerome were "skill" players anyway. Plus the centers in the NBA are consistently mediocre.

Biggie said...

OK, but are you still mad at Shaun Alexander for dropping 266 on ya'll??

Anonymous said...

"this blog is terrible"


fag!!!

your wife is terrible.

Anonymous said...

Junior High is Kule! see you guys in 2nd period!

Sonic EJ said...

It's cool, he'll be a Raider next year. LOL

Biggie said...

Naw, Lamont Jordan will work out quite nicely, ya'll won't need Alexander will you please call Al Davis and tell him to change that gay logo already, it is really in need of an update that dude wouldn't scare richard simmons (or anonymous) LOL

Anonymous said...

awwww where'd ya go Diezel? are you mad?? where's your triad?? is that chinese for an all male menage et tois??? you slippery little fuckers!! hahahahahaha

Anonymous said...

WHITE POWER!!!!!!!!!

Sonic EJ said...

easy black,

A Seahawks fan talking about bad logos? LOL.

Come on.

The Hawks should go back to the old logo, at lest it was kind of “funny cool.”

Even a jaded Seahawks fan (I know I used to be one) has to admit the Raiders have the best logo in sports.

Someone needs to tell Seahawk management to lose the neon green stripe on the jerseys. That thing could blind someone. LOL

Biggie said...

Best Logo in sports?? are you kidding best colors maybe. Best Logo in sports by far is the Sonics, best Jerseys are the Bulls black w/ white pinstripes. That Raider looks like he is sticking his head into a gay bar trying to find his little friend bruce. LOL

Sonic EJ said...

LOL!

Diezel said...

I am actually at a job.... I am done wit u anyway....

What about dickau getting 3.5 mill a year from Boston???? See like I have been saying thats what the market is dictating. I mean if we dont match Damien then what??? The only comparable players left for the same money would be Gerald Wallace, Maurice Evans, or Ron Mercer??? I like Wallaces athletisism alot I think that would be interesting.... A guy off the bench that comes in for one thing and thats to score, Wallace could play either 2/3.

Anonymous said...

I'm surprised Gerald Wallace isn't getting some decent offers, he seems to have alot of potential.

Sonic EJ said...

I wonder how hard it will be to move Ray's new big deal before the all-star break if the Sonics suck this year? LOL

Please God please let the Sonics be real good or real bad this year. I can't stand another mediocre season.

At this point the Sonics have a problem. They need Wilkins back but not for the kind of money he is going to get from the T-wolves.

This French guy the Sonics got in the second round looks good on the home video I saw on draft day but who knows what that is worth.(Think Darko).

Obviously Wilkins would help the Sonics next season but my gut is telling me you can’t sign unproven swingmen to somewhat big contracts.

I think the Sonics should sign the best of the guys Diezel listed, provided they will sign a one year deal.

JohnS said...

I don't see how we can sign Wilkins and Vlade. Means we have roughly $20M of salary logjam at the SF position. I can't see how they can spread the minutes around with Allen and Lewis locked into 38+ minutes a night.

If we sign Vlade, he'll take the extra 10 mins behind Lewis. What's left for Damien? 10 mins max backing up Allen? We can't pay some guy $3M for five years to play 10-15 a game.

Diezel said...

gerabelle??? on draft night that guy looked like the guy from the bud commercial when he goes into the bar with his dog on his head the guy couldn't even fit the sonics hat on. He could be another Micahel Petrius... stuck behind J. rich and seeing no time.

Like I said the day after the draft the sonics could have handled there 1/2/3 backup problem by drafitng a guy like Salim, Von Wafer, cj Miles, or Dijon Thompson. Not terribly exciting but they are hungry just like Damien was...

Anonymous said...

Diezels mom eats cocks like skittles. hahahaha

Biggie said...

I didn't like the Supes draft picks I was hoping for Simien or that Blatche kid looked allright but why go and draft a couple of cheese eating surrender lovers??

Biggie said...

It's like just because the Spurs got lucky and Ginobli Panned out (like we all knew he would, he balled in the world campionships) now stupid ass Wally Walker has to go and do it too, he's such a moron. Last time I checked African-American kids were still the best ball players in the world so why turn to europe so much, sure they've got some good players but c'mon man.

Anonymous said...

'african american' kids are the best only because they have three legs.

Diezel said...

listen u little fag... my moms passed away (r.i.p angel) so if u talk shit again i will call kjr and have them try and track ur ip address u little bitch.

Biggie said...

Uh, is that supposed to be an insult?? Sounds more like a compliment to me.

Anonymous said...

hey Diezel are you really that gay kid in kungfu hustle with his pants down all the time. hahaha

Anonymous said...

hey black,

why do your people smoke crack all the time, why don't they go get jobs? hahahahaha

Myk said...

Diezel,
The only reason Salim is hungry is beacuse he has been taking too many hits of pipe. Salim will be nothing in this league, and there is no way you could count on him as a PG...we'd have the smallest worst defending PG duo in the league.

Sonic EJ,
I really hope you are not saying that the Sonics had a mediocre year last year. I could handle another year like last year a lot more than a year like 2003 and 2004.


I too am happy that the Sonics didn't spend 3.5million per year on Davis. The fact that they were only willing to go to 2yr/4mil should make all you Sonics fans happy, they are smart enough not to waste money on something even if their might be a need. With the salary cap you need to optimize ALL of your dollars and if that means you don't overpay for someone who might help close a gap than that is good. 3.5mil for Dickau is horrible.

Biggie said...

Are you through?? This is so retarded. What's the point of this nonsense? Are you that bored? Don't you have an xbox or something go do something with your time, do something constructive. Just a corny little fuck trying to get a rise out of people. I'm sure you don't say this kind of crap to people in your everyday life so why here, are you that much of a pussy?

Sonic EJ said...

Diezel/Black,

It is rare for a draft to be as deep with college talent as the last one. The Sonics could have picked blind folded from the college pool and done a hell of a lot better than they did.

I was pissed as hell when the passed on Simien. CJ miles would have been so much better for the Sonics than Petro! Jawad Williams anyone?

The draft marked the beginning of the end for the Sonics this season. Just wait until they are 15-15 two months into the season after starting 8-2. All the Homer, Wally Walker fans will not know what happened or how to fix it.

Biggie said...

Myk,

It was nice not hearing your opinions for awhile, thanks for the break.

Sonic EJ said...

myk,

No, last year was great.

I'm talking about the 5 or so before it. Remember those?

Anonymous said...

myk likes to suck dog testicles

Biggie said...

Naw dude we'll still get the 7 seed in the playoffs maybe we can surprise someone and get to the second round again. We won't be too bad and we won't be too good. probably pick like 16 or so in next years draft, probably the first team to ever draft someone out of siberia based on a video we got from portland again. I wish they had to consult someone who knows basketball before they drafted french dudes. is the term 'french dude' an oxy moron? lol

Myk said...

Black,
Umm OK...just because my opinons are based in reality and not your wonderworld does not mean I don't have the right to express them. Someone on this board has to be able to look at the whole picture and you guys who post the most definately do not see that..

Biggie said...

oh BTW, myk, Salim is the truth and I hate arizona so for me to say that is something.

Biggie said...

I never said you didn't have the right, I just said that the break was nice. This is america after all, we have to take the good with the bad (like this anonymous jackass).

Anonymous said...

myk


what do dog testicles taste like anyways?? do you get dog hairs in your teeth??

Myk said...

I just don't understand why everyone likes Salim, we all got to see him play the UW 6 times (well 5) in the last three years and he is a head case. If he was so good why wouldn't he have been drafted at least in the first round, his numbers were much better than Nate's and look how much higher Nate went than him.

Myk said...

Hey Anonymous,
Are you posting things I keep seeing your name but everything you type is blank...Im really interested in hearing your insights they are usually so spot on...

Diezel said...

I think that is the reason the guy is liked(salim) I agree the guy is a headcase sometimes, but u cant argue with his big shot/late game heroics thats just a fact... He shot over 50% from 3 and the Zona pedigree in the nba is remarkable. I am not totally blaiming Wally for the draft as I know the like 5 picks before them went... not in this exact order, but i dont want to research the damm thing... Hoge to Denver, Jack to Denver/Portland, Garcia to Sac, and the pick right before us was Luther Head... But if ur going to draft a project with that pick why not go after one of the High school kids???

Diezel said...

also Remember Gilbert Arenas was drafted in the second round for the same reason head case/Tweener, and look at him now. r u telling me u wouldn't want Gil Arenas???

Biggie said...

Drafting kids from Arizona is a safe bet, Lute knows talent, they are all good. I grew up in seattle across the street from J.Terry and there was nothing we could say to make him stay home (at the time he made the right choice) but all the guys in the neighborhood wanted him to be a dawg, we thought he could help bring some respectability to the program. But that was with bender and super scrub Donald watts.

Anonymous said...

hey Diezel do you remember the taste of arenas' ass????

Anonymous said...

myk's mom eats dicks like skittles

Biggie said...

Why are you always talking about dicks dude???

Sonic EJ said...

black you're right, Lute knows talent.
Salim is Miles Simon all over again though. Great college player that got lots of NBA hupe because of his last name. If he was like 2-3 inches taller I would be all over him. I can't belive I'm saying this but I think I might rather have Petro.(that hurt.)

Biggie said...

oh I don't thonk the Supes should have drafted him I'm just sayin the kid can play and will be in the league for a long time.

Anonymous said...

i 'thonk' black is an idiot.

yes a gay idiot

Biggie said...

whatever jackass it was a typo, you really talk about being gay an unhealthy amount of the time do you realize this? Maybe your mind is trying to tell you something.

Anonymous said...

hahaha anonymous wins again


i rule this stupid blog

Diezel said...

ur a little bitch u if i ever seen in person I would bitch slap u.... if ur tough call me at 425 365 7712

U little bitch

Sonic EJ said...

LOL.

Let me know if he calls.

Biggie said...

Me too, I want some of that. I will knock that mofo the f*** out.

Anonymous said...

diezel why are you giving me your number i don't want to show you how your girl likes it, you can't do what i do bitch.

Anonymous said...

i just called, that shit is fake you little bitch. what a homo.

Anonymous said...

hey diezel, five dolla sucky sucky



lol

Diezel said...

why dont u give me ur number then bitch if ur so tough

Anonymous said...

down boy, jesus. you really want to taste my scrotum don't you i know you woman looooooves it. when you kiss her tonight and you taste something different that's MY SCROTUM.



hahahahahahahahaha

now what bitch

Biggie said...

Man you really talk alot of shit huh? you must be a walking vagina, pussy.

Anonymous said...

sure my number is 1-800-eat-dick

Anonymous said...

I'm a homo bitch!

Sonic EJ said...

Yes you are.

Anonymous said...

Yes I am.

Diezel said...

I really am done with this, its stupid and I am going to call kjr and see if they can track down ur ip address and ban u from the blog

Anonymous said...

Good luck buddy, I'm untouchable!

Biggie said...

Well that's that then, I hope you get banned, I don't advocate tellin, but that's just how i was raised. This site is for sports talk and you just messed it all up. Good riddance.

Anonymous said...

well i guess not completly untouchable, your girlfriend is the exeption. how does my chode taste diezel??

Anonymous said...

hey black i did your mom last night while ej's mom tossed my salad. YES!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Sorry guys, I guess I am pretty freaking gay. Been having a bad day and all due to the fact that I am inbred and my sister (also my wife) has scurvy because we can't afford any fruit from the market.

Anonymous said...

ej's mom is tounge talented, does she give you brown kisses ej?

Anonymous said...

does ej stand for eat jizz??

Anonymous said...

hey diezel, did you snitch yet??

hey snitch rhymes with what i call your girl when shes givin me the old spit shine. lol

Anonymous said...

i'm a stunt double for richard simmons in gay flicks.

Biggie said...

So anyone want to talk sports??

Biggie said...

Anyone have an opinion on who should start for the DAWGS at QB?

I like Stanback, I like the versatility, we could run a real nasty option with him at QB.

Diezel said...

why are u scared cuz the have the ability to do it??? Black we need stanbeck at WR.... I go with Bonnell or derousher

Anonymous said...

Dude, black you brought this on yourself.

All the ignorant shit you were going off on just to get attention.

Coming back to bite you in the ass....it's pretty funny when the trolls start to get annoyed.

Anonymous said...

The Huskies aren't running the option this year....listen to the coach.

Biggie said...

Naw we've got good wideouts, give the kid a chance. that's probably what the said about Vince Young and look at him, sorry it's a touchy subject with me, everytime a black kid wants to play QB and he's fast everyone says, oh oh kick returner or wide out, fuck that QUARTERBACK.

Anonymous said...

What the fuck are you talking about, there are a ton of black quarterbacks.

Biggie said...

"just to get attention"

Why the fuck would I want attention from you sheep, I don't do shit for you if I said it I meant it jackass, maybe that concept is foriegn to you but to me it's how I was raised. I'm not a performer fuck your attention.

don't get it twisted bitch.

Biggie said...

a ton huh? well then there needs to be two tons. and don't speak unless spoken to, trick.

Anonymous said...

you too Diezel, you fuckin know it all.

Anonymous said...

Black, you're exactly the same as that anonymous bitch.

You're opinions rarely make any sense, so please just shut up.

And until you stop smoking crack, I hope that anon mother fucker keeps harrasing you.

Anonymous said...

Black, this isn't the 1950's anymore.

Just shut the fuck up.

Biggie said...

They are my opinions if you don't like 'em, fuck you. I'll be on here everryday that I feel like being on here, what? and what are you talking about you ARE that anonymous motherfucker. get a clue.

Biggie said...

I won't be happy until every div 1 school in america has a starting black, hispanic, or asian QBwhy is that you might ask, well you already made my point, because it's not the 1950's bitch.

Biggie said...

who wants some??? next!!

Biggie said...

Corny ass white boys, fuck ya'll.

Anonymous said...

I'm glad you aren't white, it's ignorant mother fuckers like you that are the leaders of the Klan.

If you haven't figured it out yet, anyone can post under the "anonymous" title...so actually I'm not the annoymous idiot...but that was too much for you to figure out.

Anonymous said...

hey Diezel how's your mom? LOL
you bitch!

Biggie said...

you are that anonymous idiot and how do I know the difference, if you post as anonymous you're on blast so, YOU'RE FAULT.

Biggie said...

well we've got something in common, I'm glad I'm not white too.

Anonymous said...

You're a joke. I hope you and the anon douche bag have a nice long orgy of stupidity.

It's too bad, Locke had a good thing going here for awhile.

Biggie said...

GOOD I'M GLAD YOU LIKE IT NOW FUCK OFF.

Sonic EJ said...

Wow, you guys are going to set black off.

I’m white and even I can admit the reason we don’t have more black quarter backs is racism. It has gotten a lot better in the last few years and hopefully some day in my lifetime it will no longer even be an issue.

BTW I would like to see Stanback get a chance until he fails. What do the Huskys have to lose? It would at least be exciting.

Biggie said...

YOU ARE THAT ANON DOUCHE BAG. GIVE IT UP. ACTUALLY HE SEEMED LIKE JUST A DUMB KID I CAN ACTUALLY FEEL THE RACIAL HATRED COMING THROUGH YOUR POSTS.

Biggie said...

Don't trip ej, this shit is fun it gets by blood pumpin. It's funny too because this clown would clam the fuck up if I was standing in front of his bitch ass.

Anonymous said...

The reason the're isn't more black head coaches in college...is racism.

There are very few people who actually believe that black athletes aren't smart enough to handle the quarterback position...that is where all that ignorant bull shit came from.

But, you're an idiot if you think a coach is going to play a white kid over a superior black kid when they have their job on the line.

Biggie said...

It's not the coaches choice dumbshit it's pressure from the alumni, i can forgive you because your too stupid to know how the game works let alone play it. I feel sorry for your simple ass.

Anonymous said...

Black, give it up. You're a joke. I probably hate the white race more than you.

But, I don't make my screen name KILLALLWHITEPEOPLE, or even "black" because I'm not a ignorant mother fucker.

Anonymous said...

Black, shut your stupid ass mouth.

You honestly believe that Tyrone Willingham isn't going to decide who the quaterback is on his football team?

Just shut up.

Biggie said...

well the Supes just re-signed Potapenko. not really breaking news most of us knew they would anyways, just an FYI.

Biggie said...

dude you're an idiot willingham got fired because of racist alumni at Notre Dame. Pull your head out of your ass you fuckin moron.

Biggie said...

stop talkin to me you bitch ass trick "you don't know me and you don't know my style." You are a white mans dog huh?

Sonic EJ said...

I like the move to re-sign Potapenko.

DOGNUTZZZZZZZZZ said...

don't trip black I got your back. Stupid ass bootlickin somomabitches.

"WHERE ARE THE WHITE WOMEN AT?"

Anonymous said...

Black, you're even dumber than I thought.

I said nothing about ND, and it was obviously unfair what happened over there.

But once again, do you honestly believe Tyrone Willingham is not going to pick his starting quarterback?

That's what I thought. Stupid ass.

Maybe I was giving you too much credit.

Sonic EJ said...

Anyone want to talk Hockey?

Sonic EJ said...

LOL!

Anonymous said...

I say re-sign Vlad, Evans and Wilkens and see what happens.

Remember we battled the Spurs to 6 game without Rad and Lewis.

Vlad and Lewis will make up for the loss of Daniels and James, easily.

Hopefully Weiss is a good coach.

DOGNUTZZZZZZZZZ said...

DON'T WORRY ANON YOUR WHITE MASTER IS NOT GOING TO FIND OUT YOUR BEING UPPITY. LOL

Biggie said...

I don't need or want credit from your stupid ass, WTF. get over yourself jackass. LOL

Anonymous said...

i love it this fuckin site is in shambles. YES!!!!

anonymous wins again hahahahahaha

Biggie said...

and stay out mothafuckas.

Diezel said...

hey anon... u fag i just talked to a guy at kjr and they can trace ur ip address fag pray i cant talk some intern into giving me ur info bitch!!!!

Anonymous said...

happy snitchin diezel, happy snitchin.

Anonymous said...

Why don't you answer the question?

"It's not the coaches choice dumbshit it's pressure from the alumni"

So you honestly believe that Willingham isn't going to pick his starter?

Answer, or shut the fuck up.

Diezel said...

why u scared bitch I told u to stop fuckin wit me.... PRAY i dont find u... U dont even know what a real Rat is necca!!!! pleaze believe i will blast.. check king country jails records

smike said...

Diezel,
Way to go .. I hope KJR can just block him out or hopefully they will stop anonymous quoting. I also brought this anonymous kid up with blogger to see if they can stop them.

AK1984 said...

Well, the lesson that we've all learned today is that regardless of one's ethnicity, there are many doltishly bigoted individuals.

Thankfully, though, there are message boards (e.g., http://www.ussmariner.com ) that ban ethnocentric bigots such as "black"*, "diezel", "dognutz...", and any idiot that posts under "anonymous".

In the end, ultimately, either David Locke is going to have either an intern or a computer tech who works for KJR run a tighter ship @ this message board, or it's going to be shut down -- just as Howard Stern's was -- which is fine by me.

*Look, I don't know if "Black" is an actual African-American individual with an asinine ideology regarding the relationships between ethnicities throughout the sports world, or if he's nothing more than a troll who has taken on a gimmicked character; nevertheless, regardless of "Black's" true intentions, the person who wrote the posts under that pseudonym is a complete and utter imbecile.

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b_con said...

I agree wholeheartedly with you AK, though we disagreed about Drew Gooden many times on a different site whose identity we can't reveal to these guys. Good comment. It might be cool to have Gooden only cause he played with Collison. If we threw in a drafted Wayne Simien it would've completed a kansas trifecta of PFs.

DOGNUTZZZZZZZZZ said...

Man it must be 'white boy day' LOL

Anonymous said...

It's too bad what this site has turned into. I usually just read the various opinions and eventhough I may disagree, it's still fun to learn why people have those thoughts.

I think the Sonics missed out on a golden opportunity in drafting Simien. According to Van Gundy, Simien will see some time next year. How in the world can a guy play meaningful minutes on the deep Heat team and the Sonics draft Petro over him. Something is seriously wrong with this. We have 2 projects that are over 2 years away from even getting to the level Simien is at now.

I'm tired of this team going cheap and drafting over seas when we have good proven talent in the college ranks. Did anyone else notice the fad of drafting european players decline last year? Almost all of them slipped? I wonder why??

My last point, when does this team stop "building for the future" and start adding pieces that gets us past the 2nd round. Drafting Petro instead of Simien clearly states the inconsistent thought process that goes into your their thinking. They drafted 3 players that won't even help in the next 2 years and we aren't adding those important key pieces that good teams have; i.e. veteran back-up point guard, experianced post players. I'm not talking about breaking the bank, just add pieces that were missing last year. Who besides Lewis can command a double team on the block? Who will back up Potapenko? Swift? In fairness to this young man who's only 19, he can't be asked to add important minutes in a playoff game. He's way too far away. I know Jack Sikma and when he mentioned in the papers that Swift needs to show some fire, that's real concerning. That's not Sikma's M.O. Decent big men in the league cost extra; you can always find a decent 1,2,3 or even 4.

This is the time Schultz should anit up and pay some$$$. Do some research, we aren't even close to the luxury tax. This is where I think Locke misses it and had a golden opportunity when he interviewed Schultz on the air to push the envelope. I'm not sure if people are aware of this, but the Sonics have over 50 owners. It's not like Schultz is losing all this money on his own. He's a terrible owner (Big reason why McMillan left) and should sell the team to Steve Ballmer. He's very interested in buying the team, but Schultz won't. He's holding this city hostage for his own personal greed. (Terrible Owner)

Huskies will start Stanback as they should.

Diezel said...

Hey AK..... why dont u read all these posts that moron was posting about my girlfriend and mother u is passed away u DOOCHEBAG. I am far brom a bigot, U have no clue so why dont u shut ur mouth when u have no clue whats going on. I never started it, he came out trying to clown my girlfriend, u obviously don't have one, therefore never had to defend one.


Enough of that....I had a idea come to my mind... Since we have made no signings to help our D, how about brining Huggy Bear as a assistant?? Here me out... Bob Weiss can stick strictly to this new run and gun style that the Sonics are so deadset on playing,U can have Sikma continue to try and develop Robert as well as Petro.

Huggy Bear can come in a work strictly on Defense, U cant argue the physicality the Bearcats play with, and there defensive intensity. Shoot he made lottery picks out of K-Mart and Danny Boy... Thats another thing if they brang in Huggy, I think he could control Danny and get him to be more productive and a little less wild.

Lastly and hopefully this is not the case, if Weiss totally tanks it then u have a head coach in waiting. Sorry all U Sikma fans, but even u would agree hes not ready for a NBA head coaching job.

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Biggie said...

Whatever that was. Diezel, I love it man, good idea didn't even cross my mind but it's beautiful. That'll work dude that'll work (it's not like they'll ever do it though). Ak, get a life dude me and you really need to sit down so I can give you an education in REALITY but here is not the place maybe some other blog, but you are so lost it is scary my son.

DOGNUTZZZZZZZZZ said...

"Good fella rich kids, hand me down stocks" -Luda

Sonic EJ said...

Diezel,

'Huggy Bear' would be great for all the reasons you stated.

I'm leaving town for awhile so you and Black need to keep up the good work.

I'll talk to you guys in a couple of weeks.

peace out.

Biggie said...

Have a safe trip dude, peace out.

I came across something too funny today, this is a big "kiss my ass" to Locke and all you Lance Armstrong groupies, "one of the greatest atletes of all times" LOL, yeah him and Palmeiro, check this out at ESPN.com

PARIS -- The director of the Tour de France said it was a "proven scientific fact" that Lance Armstrong had a performance-boosting drug in his body during his 1999 Tour win, and that the seven-time champion owed fans an explanation.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, OH MAN THAT WAS GREAT.

Biggie said...

OH WAIT THERES MORE;

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HEE HEE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LO MUTHAFUCKIN L

DOGNUTZZZZZZZZZ said...

Oh, that is classic, that is so damn funny I wish I could have found that first, you got to rub it in all these idiots faces, I am sooooo damn jealous.

Biggie said...

Here is some more for you idiots;



L'Equipe reported that six urine samples provided by the cancer-surviving American during the 1999 Tour tested positive for the red blood cell-booster EPO. The drug, formally known as erythropoietin, was on the list of banned substances at the time, but there was no effective test to detect it.

The allegations surfaced six years later because EPO tests on the 1999 samples were carried out only last year -- when scientists at a lab outside Paris used them for research to perfect EPO testing. The national anti-doping laboratory in Chatenay-Malabry said it promised to hand its finding to the World Anti-Doping Agency, provided it was never used to penalize riders.

Five-time cycling champion Miguel Indurain said he couldn't understand why scientists would use samples from the 1999 Tour for their tests.

"That seems bizarre, and I don't know who would have the authorization to do it," he told L'Equipe. "I don't even know if it's legal to keep these samples."

L'Equipe's investigation was based on the second set of two samples used in doping tests. The first set were used in 1999 for analysis at the time. Without those samples, any disciplinary action against Armstrong would be impossible, French Sports Minister Jean-Francois Lamour said.

Lamour said he was forced to have doubts about L'Equipe's report because he had not seen the originals of some of the documents that appeared in the paper.

"I do not confirm it," he told RTL radio. But he added: "If what L'Equipe says is true, I can tell you that it's a serious blow for cycling."

The International Cycling Union did not begin using a urine test for EPO until 2001, though it was banned in 1990. For years, it had been impossible to detect the drug, which builds endurance by boosting the production of oxygen-rich red blood cells.

Biggie said...

Locke,

I would like a gracious removal of that crappy Lance "the cheater" Armstrong post. Show some true class here, you know if TO tested positive for a banned substance you would have a field day. If you show that you can exibit true class in this situation, I swear to keep it just sports whenever I post. My word is my bond, the gauntlet has been throw down.

Whatcha gonna do???

Diezel said...

anybody watch Randy Moss on REAL sports last night??? Great interview not a huge Bryant Gumbel fan but he did a good job, and it was funny on hbo because the showed that interview from last year after Randy got fined for the moon unedited. Plus it was nice to see what Randy has done for kids. IMHO, there is nothing wrong with smoking weed, at least he was man enough to admit it unlike those two losere Palmerio and Armstrong... Black... U need to go get the new time, just got minez in the mail Kanye Chedder is on the cover,it blew me away??

How many more days until we decide on Damien??? anyone hearing anything else.

Biggie said...

Nothing at all wrong with smoking weed!!! If that anonymous idiot and that AK idiot smoked weed they might be cool. Not the biggest Kanye fan, I can't stand Common and Kanye seems to love that clown, I rhyme locally, so kind of a conflict of interest ya know. Says in the PI that the Sonics have until fri to decide on Wilk. They should let pro athletes smoke weed, it's better than cigs and brew, and helps relieve alot of stress.

Diezel said...

Frank Hughes columm on espn.com is reporting Vitaly got 2/6.3 Mill for a big stiff??? and he states the Sonics have decided to re-sign Damien, you know he's not going to be happy since in Minnesota he was set to be a starter.

So now the Sonics are going to have disgruntled guys coming off the bench at minumum. Damien, Vlade, and Reggie if he doesn't start.

Frank also is saying the Sonics are still trying to sign Vlade, Reggie and FLip????? Great are big FA move of the offseason..... Ric Brunson, Lottery here we come. I pray we get a chance to draft Daniel Gibson out of UT, the guys a stud point guard whould have came out this year but he was only a freshman and there was a stockpile of PG's at the top of the draft, but all yall remember the name.

Biggie said...

D,

The worst part about it is that the guys who aren't happy know that they can run roughshod over Weiss, you know Nate wasn't havin it. That is why everyone endorsed Wiess they knew he was a punk and they could run him. This is going to be iinteresting.

Diezel said...

Anybody besides me want to puke after seeing Freddy pitch last night??? can u imagine Freddy and Felix. Hay Bavasi, instead of paying Pinero ur dumb ass should of got Freddy, I know he was kickin it Juan o Rileys all da time but just look at his season. Another brillant move by a seattle GM.

Biggie said...

Man it sure is quite today.
Is that because everyone has their mouths full of crow, due to a certain doped up cyclist? Sorry but this is just too good.

Anonymous said...

black and diezel are gay lovers

Anonymous said...

Not the same anonymous as the other idiot.

There's a big difference between Moss and Armstrong. Moss has admitted it. His is also not performance boosting (yet still illegal and against the nfl's drug policy for some stupid reason). Armstrong was "caught" by a biased french "newspaper" (read tabloid), owned by a french company who runs the french tour who want a french rider to win their own tour. L'Quipe have blasted Armstrong for years with this nonsense.

I doubt you follow cycling (because most people in the US don't, not because of something racial that seems to always be thrown around here). If you did, you'd probably ask a few more questions before you just ran off with this, unlike the director of same tour run by the same company who owns the same tabloid...

Here's a few:

Where have they kept these samples? How did the tabloid obtain these samples? Were they secure since 1999? I'm sure this same tabloid who have an axe to grind wouldn't taint them to prove a point... How did the tabloid match the anonymous id's to Armstrong, when the lab itself could not?

There are many more questions, but who wants to actually think rationally around here?

Biggie said...

They matched the ID tab numbers on the sample to that of a doctors record earlier the personal number code matched. ESPN is "running" with this. Can I help it if I think it is the funniest joke since Mark Macgwire.

Biggie said...

Go to ESPN.com and read the full article it answers all your "please god say it ain't so" questions. LOL

Biggie said...

As far as thinking rationally, c'mon man do you honestly think that some one with the aid of no enhancers whatsoever wins something like the Tour de France 7 times? and by the margins of victory he achieves, I have no love for the french (cheese eating surrender monkeys) but I too would be pissed if some clown from out of town (hey that rhymes) comes in and wins a bunch of sacred events in my country while cheating and the hard working athletes from my own country were getting shafted by this. Also, I'm sure the dude who won 6 (before Lance) was doping too, you just don't win something like that 6 times naturally, if you think you do, you call that rational??

Anonymous said...

I love Lance there is no way he cheated, he's white.

Anonymous said...

i wouldn't base your entire arguement on that overview on espn? i've read that. as well as a few other sites dedicated to cycling.

and no, i'm not a big lance supporter. i have always followed hamilton. of course he was bagged for doping last year. doh.

i also am not so gullible to say that we know for a fact lance didn't use EPO. until a credible test is failed, or a credible witness confirms data, it's hard to know he has.

hey, the star reported that aliens have landed in california and are spreading a disease that will kill everyone on earth. oh, and "john" saw it happen and confirmed it as he deposited a large check from the star. i'm worried about that too.

and you are right, it is hard to believe about the 7 tours. especially when other were known to be doping. i'm just saying, i'm not going to say this is conclusive proof until a credible source has confirmed it.

Anonymous said...

Black ur an asshole, you just wish you were Lance Armstrong.

I know I do If I was a woman I would suck his..............

Anonymous said...

yeah there are aliens in california, they're mexicans. lol

Anonymous said...

KJR is reporting the Sonics matched the offer for Wilkins.

Biggie said...

Good stuff. D. Wilk is the man.

Biggie said...

That crack about mexicans although in bad taste, is pretty funny.

Anonymous said...

hey diezel,

you should thank me, i taught your girl to blow cum bubbles.


anonymous ruleZ

Anonymous said...

Tre Simmons would be a good fit for the sonics. If they can't have Nate Rob, then Tre would be a good way to make up for it. The man is a marksman and a good defender. I'll take him over Flip any day.

Anonymous said...

Tre Simmons would be a good fit for the sonics. If they can't have Nate Rob, then Tre would be a good way to make up for it. The man is a marksman and a good defender. I'll take him over Flip any day.

Anonymous said...

Ban the black!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

YEAH, BLACK PEOPLE SUCK

Anonymous said...

Remember, he's a white guy on Mercer Island pretending to be black!!!LOL!!!!

Biggie said...

Exactly, yep mercer island, right by luther burbank park. white as the driven snow, yep that's me whitey whiterson, the crackerest of crackers.

Anonymous said...

Are you sure you're not Arnold from Different Strokes? Or are you Webster?LOL

Biggie said...

Right, I'm real short too. But like Mini ME I'm a freakin tripod. Baby's arm holdin an apple biatch.

Biggie said...

Ya know, it seems by the characters you bring up that you are too old to be indulging in this stupid crap, but hey once a jackass always a jackass.

Anonymous said...

i hate diezel, that know it all sonuvabitch. but i love his woman you should see what she can do with her tounge.


hey black, your mom has some saggy titties

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