PLAYER +/- OFF DEF NET 48 MINUTES
Brunson +3 65.2 32.6 +32.6
Petro -7 97.8 101.5 -3.7
Fortson -12 95.6 103.7 -8.1
Moore -12 113.8 156.4 -42.7
Cleaves -17 81.3 98.3 -17.1
Evans -22 91.7 102.5 -10.8
Allen -25 99.2 104.4 -5.2
Collison -32 97.0 107.3 -10.3
Potapenko-39 82.2 108.2 -26.0
Radmanovic-45 86.6 106.1 -19.5
Ridnour -54 91.9 104.7 -12.8
Lewis -55 95.1 108.4 -13.2
Wilkins -68 82.9 118.8 -35.9
Murray -75 91.3 124.3 -33.1
The things that jump out at me are ..
1) The terrible defensive numbers with Wilkins in the game
2) Last year the offense was great with Vlady
3) Ray Allen has to be on the floor
4) The defense is noticably better with Petro in the game
5) The second best offensive rating is with Nick on the floor
Any thoughts?
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7 comments:
I think this team is like a kid with an authoritarian father that goes to college and totally goes out of control. They have been so used to the external passion and discipline via Nate that they aren't used to having to come up with that passion and pride within themselves.
I'd like to think that the Washington game was the equivalent of "hitting bottom" and that the Toronto game was the start of learning how to play hard and compete hard as a team without Nate's strong hand driving them constantly.
I think the good news is that if the fire comes from the players themselves and not just from the coach, I think it is more lasting and can get you through more tough times than if you simply are being steered by someone else.
I saw a pissed off and fired up Rashard completely taking over against Toronto - the guy was unstoppable. You could hear him yell on TV when Nick hit that layup in overtime - how many times have we seen that in the last 7 years?
Raptors played the best game of their lives and we were able to close it out on the road in overtime without Ray. Tonight against NJ is a critical test against a good team. I'm psyched to see how they respond.
Actually according to your numbers Nick is only 4th best on offense and Petro is only a slight improvement over Fortson on defense.
And to flip it, Collison is 5th on defensive rating of 7 big men he competes with for time and it only better than the two least used ones.
So far this year Nick is giving up 6 more points per 48 minutes to power forwards but is doing better against centers. But the folks at 82games have yet to prove that they accurately record actual position played in the game and not height so maybe it is a wash.
Nick was +5 compared to Reggie on/off last year but this year he is virtually the same and now the move is made. I agree with it but the +/-stats provide no basis for it and that is my point. They are overused and not that discerning or fair.
You roll the dice with seven foot shot blockers. Maybe they lost out with Swift (the kid is still a sophomore in college BTW) but may have won out with Petro. The key is that if either of those guys pan out they have a defensive anchor for the next 10-15 years.
The bottom line is that you can't get top notch big men (other than Shaq) in a trade or via free agency. At least outside of Miami or LA. We don't have weather or location going for us - anyone we get is going to be via the draft.
You are absolutely right, sonics70. It's not a question of Swift being better than those players right now. Of course, everybody in the organization knew that he is not going to be good for the first couple of years. He is a project...
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