A quick update on Dale Davis. I just spoke with his agent Chubby Wells and he expects a decision to be made either tonight (Thursday) or more likely tomorrow. Things can change but as of right now the decision is between Seattle and Detroit.
Rick Sund and Wells plan to speak in the next few hours.
Seed Newsvine
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it probably depends on how many minutes detroit says he can expect. eldon campbell got 11 minutes a night but played in less than half the games. with rasheed and mcdyess not being young anymore maybe they could shave a few minutes off their time and give davis a steady 15-20 minutes a game. if they offer that, i would think he would go there for the championship possibility.
if they are offering a repeat of campbell's experience, he probably comes here.
DD has never really struck me as a guy that is too intrested in winning a ring (which is good for the Sonics) or playing time (which is bad for the Sonics). If the money is the same, Detroit seems like a no-brainer, even if the minutes might be less, but DD has never been accused of having much of a brain, so who knows. One thing is for sure; signing Davis is basically a vote of no confidence for Swift and Petro. Swift would be lucky to get in during garbage time, and Petro probably wouldn't every play.
The other thing to keep in mind is who has more money to spend. Detroit is after Finley and/or Sprewell so they'll have to cough up anywhere from $3M to the full MLE to land either of those guys. We might have an advantage on the money end of things.
Also, if Davis is going to make a decision tonight or tomorrow, since the Finley thing isn't wrapped up yet, we might have the advantage because we know what we're willing to offer while Detroit might still be stuck waiting on Finley.
Why would Davis want to go to Detroit? He would be competing with Darko for the 10 minutes a game that are available behind the Wallaces and McDyess.
And why would Detroit, with only one roster spot open and a whole at backup SF, want to sign Davis and use up part of the MLE before they've addressed their primary need?
Why would Davis want to go to Detroit? He would be competing with Darko for the 10 minutes a game that are available behind the Wallaces and McDyess.
And why would Detroit, with only one roster spot open and a whole at backup SF, want to sign Davis and use up part of the MLE before they've addressed their primary need?
i agree that the sonic moves so far dont really advance the cause. but sonic management is surely saving money to keep ridnour and collison they way they talk about them. that seems like a fact to me. notice i didnt say i ageed with it. i think they are both good, probably well improve to very good, but havent proven that much yet.
lets watch. i think wilkens, murray walk for nothing. not sure on rad, probably takes his $3.2 million his year then walks or maybe gets sign & trade.
the draft picks all look like they are aiming to be good in like 2009. ray's signing is the only thing so far that seemed oriented to the here and now and competing in the playoffs the next two years. what they do with the remaining free agents any more outside signings will tell how serious they really are about the next two years. if they let a lot of people go, then maybe Ray was really more of a p.r. transition figure rather than the core of a serious push to be better now.
Dale Davis was decent his first three seasons in Portland, but he
slowed down his final year here in 2003-04, then spent last season
in Golden State doing basically nothing other than giving the
Warriors the chance to use his contract to get Baron Davis.
then went to indiana and posted 9 boards a game.
This would be in addition to Vlady
davis is 36 but is tough and isnt carrying any excess weight.
his last year in portland he only got 22 minutes a night but his rebounding pace was about the same as 7 per 30 minutes. in golden state he only got 16 minutes but that was an equivalent rate of about 8.5 per 30 minutes. so while he probably has slowed down, he can still rebound pretty well by getting and holding position.
Dale Davis is a good addition if you Vitaly is the only center you pick up. He has consistently put up at least 8rpg when he has gotten at least 20mpg. His minutes dropped in the last year in Portland and in GS, but as mentioned by another, he went right back up in boards with floor time in Indiana. He an aggressive offensive rebounder, and is much better at put-back scoring than Reggie. He is tough, strong and hard working which sets a solid example for Swift and Petro. He also has a long history of setting solid screens for shooters (see Miller, Reggie). He won't be effective at his age (36) for better than 20mpg, but can back up the 4 or the 5. When you play Vlade at the 4 you need a rebounder at the 5. You have promise in a young guy like Collison, with solid veteran role players like Danny, Dale and Vitaly and a couple of projects like Swift and Petro. Why blow your money on a talented but historically undermotivated youth like Chandler? The market forces you to overpay. You don't get excitement or displays of brilliance with the Sonic's strategy, but you do get consistent production. Their offensive strategy doesn't rely on a stellar big in the paint. It is built around athleticism, speed and great shooting. I'd like the Sonics to do something exciting in the off season, too, but I'd rather see them win a hell of a lot of games and compete with the best in the post season. We were all underwhelmed last summer, and they gave us an amazing season. I reserve judgement until I see the game they bring to the floor.
Some of you guys are delusional. Dale Davis does NOT get 8 RPG when he plays at least 20 MPG. Last year, just with Indiana, he averaged 8.9 RPG in 29.2 MPG. That comes to about 6 rebounds per 20 minutes.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dale_davis/index.html?nav=page
In regards to being a better "put back" scorer than Evans, that just plain false as well. I realize that at this point, Sonics managment is just grasping at straws and people are trying to be optimistic about it, but trust me, it's better to just accept that facts and deal with them.
dale davis 66% on inside shots http://www.82games.com/04IND17A.HTM
reggie evans 56% on inside shots
http://www.82games.com/04SEA10A.HTM
I'll give you it took more than 20mpg...we'll go with 25mpg to get the 8 boards. Certainly less in the last couple of years, but I argue that there will be more available if you are playing Vlade at the 4 when DD is in.
Davis Stats
Year MPG RPG
91-92 20.3 6.4
92-93 27.6 8.8
93-94 34.7 10.9
94-95 31.7 9.4
95-96 33.6 9.1
96-97 32.4 9.7
97-98 27.9 7.8
98-99 27.5 8.3
99-00 28.7 9.9
00-01 26.7 7.5
01-02 31.4 8.8
02-03 29.3 7.2
03-04 22.1 5.2
04-05 16 4.3
04-05 29.2 8.9
04-05 21.4 6.1
Career 28.4 8.3
Playoff 29.5 8.8
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